Episodes

Tuesday Sep 30, 2025
Tuesday Sep 30, 2025
Join fan favorites Kevin Dye and Todd Jenkins as we unpack the Secret Service’s role in securing New York City for the annual United Nations General Assembly. We share firsthand stories about the massive logistics undertaking, long hours, cultural clashes, and unexpected moments that define UNGA in New York City.
The episode is heavy on humor and hard-earned lessons, post assignments, and memorable incidents — offering you a behind-the-scenes look at how one of the world’s largest security operations is planned and executed.

Tuesday Sep 23, 2025
Tuesday Sep 23, 2025
From driving limousines to lockup, Retired Special Agent Frank Kelley sits down to recount a 23-year Secret Service career - from field investigations and presidential protection to an international counterfeit takedown.
Frank also discusses his move to Inspector General for the South Carolina Department of Corrections, the growing drone-and-cellphone contraband problem inside prisons, and candid personal anecdotes about life on the job.

Tuesday Sep 16, 2025
Tuesday Sep 16, 2025
On this episode of Outside the Secret Service, former Special Agent Jon Wackrow recounts his unexpected path into the Secret Service from a career in the hospitality industry. Jon's career teaches us about the power of relationships.
Join us as we explore his experiences from being in the training academy during 9/11 (returning to a field office that no longer physically existed), and his years on protective and investigative details. Now as a CNN law enforcement analyst, Jon helps us understand some of the cultural challenges inside the agency and the lessons of teamwork and leadership that have shaped his post-service career.

Tuesday Sep 09, 2025
Tuesday Sep 09, 2025
As America approaches the 24th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks on our homeland, it's only fitting to hear the story of an Agent who witnessed it first hand. Now retired, Special Agent Darin Kinder recounts what brought him to the US Secret Service in 2000, what happened on 9/11 as a young agent in the New York Field Office, and what motivated him to serve an additional 24 years in the organization.
Since retirement, Darin spends his time as a professional speaker with Fierce Faith and has recently published a book, 'Bury Me in a Dirty Suit'. His book chronicles his account of the events on 9/11 and the impact it had on his faith. Committed to pursuing his passion and purpose until he's called home by God, he's committed to not wasting a single day.
For speaker bookings: darinkinder.com and fierce-faith.com
Book link: https://a.co/d/7jMnSYm
#Faith #DoTheNextThing #Resilience #Humility #USCoastGuard

Tuesday Sep 02, 2025
Tuesday Sep 02, 2025
Retired Special Agent Cindy Marble joins the OTSS podcast to trace her Secret Service career—from being inspired by Watergate to posts in Houston, the Washington Field Office, the Intelligence Division, and the Presidential Protective Detail.
She shares frontline stories and insights about threat assessment, mental health intervention, and how her protective intelligence work led to a new role in the private sector with a focus on connecting scattered open-source information and preventing threats.
A generational leader, Cindy shares insights about how to lead high-achievers in a zero-fail mission.

Tuesday Aug 26, 2025
Tuesday Aug 26, 2025
Retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Jerry Williams recounts his journey from Uniformed Division posts in D.C. to investigations, Presidential protection for George H.W. Bush, Camp David assignments, and international advances in Northern Ireland. He shares memorable moments and lessons on leadership, process, and public service.
This episode offers a candid, fast-paced look at daily life in the Secret Service, the evolution of protection and investigative work, and how those experiences shaped a long federal career after leaving the Service.

Tuesday Aug 19, 2025
Tuesday Aug 19, 2025
You're in for a captivating conversation with Rad Jones, a retired Special Agent in Charge of the Detroit Field Office. As humble as he is capable, SAIC Jones shares remarkable experiences from his career, starting just nine months before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. This episode offers a rare glimpse into the life and times of a Secret Service Agent (and the agency) from a bygone era, filled with insider anecdotes and pivotal moments in U.S. history.
#Resilience #Resourceful #JFKAssassination #KeepTheSecretInSecretService #USSSValues

Tuesday Aug 12, 2025
Tuesday Aug 12, 2025
Every job in the US Secret Service is important and comes with tremendous responsibility. None, however, may come with more responsibility than the Special Agent in Charge of a Protective Division. They are not only ultimately responsible for the safety and security of the Protectee, but they're responsible for the management of the workforce of their division. In this episode, you'll hear from retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta, known for his tenure as the Special Agent in Charge of the Presidential Protective Division.
The Agent in Charge of a protective division is the agent "over the shoulder" of the protectee. They hear and see it all and, today, you will too. Did you ever wonder what it was like on the ground the night President George W. Bush threw out the first pitch of Game 3 of the World Series in New York in 2001? Wonder no more. Did you ever wonder how the Secret Service gets notified that the President has decided he's going to serve Thanksgiving dinner to troops in an active war zone? Well, we cover that too.
Don't miss this chance to get an insider's perspective on some of the most significant moments in recent history, as told by the agent who lived them.
#History #Legacy #Community #Training #PelotonOne,
Deacon = President Carter
HMFIC = High MoFo in Charge

Tuesday Aug 05, 2025
Tuesday Aug 05, 2025
Every job in the US Secret Service is important and comes with tremendous responsibility. None, however, may come with more responsibility than the Special Agent in Charge of a Protective Division. They are not only ultimately responsible for the safety and security of the Protectee, but they're responsible for the management of the workforce of their division. In this episode, you'll hear from retired Assistant Director Nick Trotta, known for his tenure as the Special Agent in Charge of the Presidential Protective Division.
The Agent in Charge of a protective division is the agent "over the shoulder" of the protectee. They hear and see it all and, today, you will too. Did you ever wonder what it was like on the ground the night President George W. Bush threw out the first pitch of Game 3 of the World Series in New York in 2001? Wonder no more. Did you ever wonder how the Secret Service gets notified that the President has decided he's going to serve Thanksgiving dinner to troops in an active war zone? Well, we cover that too.
Don't miss this chance to get an insider's perspective on some of the most significant moments in recent history, as told by the agent who lived them.
#History #Legacy #PowerOfCommunity #Training #PelotonOne
Deacon = President Carter
HMFIC = High MoFo in Charge

Tuesday Jul 29, 2025
Tuesday Jul 29, 2025
You may call her "Your Honor" but we like to call her "our friend, May". Welcome to the Outside the Secret Service podcast, where we sit down with May Chow, a remarkable retired Senior Special Agent of the United States Secret Service. In this episode, you'll hear May's incredible journey from her early days in law enforcement in San Francisco, to her life on the Vice President's Detail and what happened that day the Vice President accidentally shot his friend and hunting partner. Finally, we'll hear May's tales of operating a small office in Burlington, Vermont and the challenges that presents.
May's career is a testimony of resilience and how good people show up when things go horribly wrong. Listen as she shares candidly about balancing a demanding career with motherhood, handling unforeseen adversities, and the unwavering camaraderie within the Secret Service.
#Resilience #HuntingAccidents #Grit #BouncingForward #MakingMarriagesWork #Sacrifice #BarstoolSports




